Chance.....there were no commercial planes on 9-11.

It maybe a lie, only if you know it is. And yes I am very comfortable with that. I have all the facts that I need.

A lie? Well then that's your problem, not mine. I pick my battles. And as far as the parts, do you think that it's possible some have been identified and they have not published it? I'm sure there would be tons of info to a lot of answers. You just need to know where to look. And if some parts were damaged beyond determination, that doesn't mean there's a conspiracy. Kinda lame don't you think. There is practically a logical answer to just about everything involving 9/11. Everything is not a conspiracy.

Mike, you posted a video with cartoons. Learn how to post a link. And you are so very wrong. Go to the FAA site. Not sure where, but there is info that you can read up on and it is very clear that not every part has a number. What would be the point if they are interchangeable? I highly recomend that you read a book called debunking 9/11 myths. It was done by popular science magazine. It pretty much answers and destroys all conspiracy theories. So far no one has been able to argue against it and win. Check it out.

We may never find out what actually happened on that terrible day. Those who have said that even if we did get to the truth nothing will change are probably right and that is perhaps the scariest thing. But I'd still like to know the truth. I find far too many anomalies in the official story to find it plausible. I was a US Army aviator and our lack of response that day has always bugged the hell out of me. What are the odds of NORAD conducting training exercises that very day? The was from the Chicago Sun Times... WASHINGTON -- Air traffic controllers who handled two of the hijacked flights on Sept. 11 recorded their experiences shortly after the planes crashed into the World Trade Center but a supervisor destroyed the tape, a government report said Thursday. The destruction occurred despite an FAA order three days after the hijackings: "Retain and secure until further notice ALL Administrative/Operational data and ... Wouldn't this usually be considered a crime?? Why have we never seen the tapes showing exactly who got on those planes that day? When this question was raised one tape turned up without a time date stamp! Who provided security for the airports and WTC towers? This question really raises some other issues I won't get into. I could do this for quite a while but I just listed a few things to illustrate my point. The whole thing stinks of cover-up! I think in a court of law, the "official conspiracy theory" would be torn to pieces.

But there is still nothing wrong with beliving the official story. Even if it is a lie, I find a lot of comfort in it and that I don't have to worry about it. Honestly, if the parts or missing parts was a huge issue, this wouldn't jive with most researches. Just google it. Very few parts survive crashes anyway. There is a big difference between parts from a passenger jet and an army plane. The jets from airports for the most part do not have symbols or numbers on the them, thats why they're interchangable. Duh!

I thought I saw a missle hit the pentagon in that I saw. I must be wrong then. But it must have been a REALLY small plane to make such a little tiny hole. Oh and it must have had REALLY tiny wings because they didnt even break the windows on either side. Oh and everyone must have gotten of the plane before it crashed, because there were no body parts. I have personally been ay several major airplane crash sites and saw first hand the remains. DONT BELIEVE THIER LIES!!!

WTC 7 was hit by a plane!!!!!! I have video and a witness. Case closed. WTC 7 was hit by a plane. I have a video that was in my possession for several days and a witness who is actually an actor hired by the FBI who was conducting a terrorist training drill at the exact moment the plane hit WTC 7. Case closed. WTC 7 was hit by a plane! A witness and video is all you will ever need to verify a plane crash. You don’t need debris or wreckage. The crash was so violent that no debris could have ever survived at any of the four sites on 9/11. WTC 7 was hit by a plane! Witnesses and video is all you will need. WTC 7 was hit by a plane! It collapsed at freefall speed so a plane must have hit it. WTC 7 was hit by a plane because someone saw it AND I have a 2 second video. The video doesn’t actually show it hitting the building just going behind it and "melding" into it from an angle on the film that cannot be seen. WTC 7 was hit by a plane! Witnesses and video PROVE beyond any doubt that a plane hit WTC 7!!! The witnesses and video VERIFY the plane crashing into WTC 7!!! Case closed. ps.....the insurance companies that pay to replace the planes from 9/11 have yet to pay a single penny. The reason is they only pay by verifiable wreckage. After 9 years not one single piece of wreckage from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations from 9/11 has ever been verified.

Q: "Whats wrong with beliving the official story?" A: These are plane crashes not ghost sightings or religion. You should never have to "believe" something with regards to 4 jet airliners crashing. All you do is simply verify any one of the 13 million time stamped parts that made up the 4 planes on 9-11. Beliefs are irrelevant. AFTER 9 YEARS...NOT ONE SINGLE PIECE OF DEBRIS FROM ANY OF THE 4 PLANES FROM ANY OF THE 4 LOCATIONS ON 9-11 HAS EVER BEEN VERIFIED IN ANY WAY BY ANYONE. None of the black boxes have serial numbers! None of the flight data recorders have serial numbers! None of the voice data recorders have serial numbers! No engines have been verified even though each engine was 6 TONS, 9 Feet Wide, Titanium alloys....ALL EIGHT engines vaporized into thin air! It’s a first in aviation history and it happened 8 TIMES on the morning of 9-11. ALL 12 pilots were unable to put in a 4 digit code warning of a highjacking....another first in aviation history. American Airlines, according to their OWN website, says 2 of the planes never even took off on 9-11 (haven't heard that on the evening news?!!) There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The entire never ending global US war on terror was an excuse to borrow trillions and kill millions. How have they done so far?

Whats wrong with beliving the official story? It's not like it will change anything. I have better things to do than worry about conspiracies. It's a complete waste of time. No commerical planes, bombs, no plane whi freaking cares. You all act like one day someone will uncover something and something will be done. The only real truth is that you will still continue to hide behind false hope and that is sad. Complete waste of energy and money. Find something more productive to do. I'll bet none of you will even think about the victims tomorrow and there is no worse crime than that.

Can the truth be harmed? Can truth feel pain? Does truth get embarrassed? Does truth care about a belief system or have preconceived notions and assumptions? Does the truth care about lies, disinformation, or blatant falsehoods? Only when you combine the truth with a movement involving people can the truth be harmed. You can never “harm” the truth. The truth is the truth. It can never be harmed. It will always be. There were no commercial planes on 911. How you deal with that truth is up to you. Though everyone in the world will tell you that the official story is the truth. That what the military owned media showed you on 911 was the truth. That what your law enforcement and judicial demanded you obey was the truth. That what all agencies and government leaders told you was the truth. Guess what….there were no commercial planes on 911. The truth can never be harmed. Despite Trillions of dollars, millions of deaths, continued aggression and war, endless spending, elimination of rights, thousands tortured and detained…..the truth remains. There were no commercial planes on 911. It was all a lie. Just like the WMD’s in Iraq….it was ALL an intelligence failure and a lie. The criminal actions of the military owned US media will never be forgotten. The US government is now passing laws that greatly protect this “mass media” and the lies they have told. Has everyone noticed that almost every perpetrator of 911 is or has received “bailout money”? The auto industry was not part of 911. Right now the Pentagon spends $5 billion dollars a year to hire 28,000 people to do nothing but promote the “truth” of 911. The buy reporters, write the articles and news themselves, troll websites and promote lies, infiltrate “truth groups and movements”, and the most important is to lead the discussion AWAY from ever bringing up the TRUTH that there were no commercial planes on 911. Never forget that the truth can never be harmed. There were NO commercial planes on 911. 911 was a murderous lie.

Right now, government shills are working hard to trick web sites into running the claim that a passenger jet did not really hit the Pentagon. This is an old intelligence trick called "Poisoning the well", the intentional promotion of lies to blend with an embarrassing truth to discredit it. The government shills are trying to conceal real news stories such as the Israeli Spy Ring and its connections to the attacks on the World Trade Towers. So, we get hoax stories poured onto the net by government propagandists, to be used by the media to attack the credibility of anyone who dares doubt the official story. At some point in the near future, photographs, or video will be "discovered" clearly showing the impact, and the mainstream media will have a field day ridiculing those "kooky Internet web sites" and their "silly conspiracy theories", all based on a silly theory the government is itself planting on the web. But if you think about it, common sense tells you their claims are just plain silly. After all, if the passenger jet didn't hit the Pentagon, then where did it go? And since the people behind 9-11 had to get rid of the passenger jet and its contents anyway, there was no reason for them NOT to ram it into the Pentagon. Why risk a swap? Why complicate matters even further?

Right from the outset when the first photographs were published of the damage at the Pentagon, I said that it would appear that the plane that hit the Pentagon had no wings as there was no damage from "Fuel filled wings" on either side of the hole. I believe that the aircraft was shot out of the skies by military aircraft, whether before or after the "crash", but this information was kept quiet as it was their own defense force that killed the passengers on board the aircraft and they did not want this information to be leaked to the public.

The next question is obvious. Prove that it was. The argument that the plane parts have not been identified is pretty strong, but proves nothing. Still all theories. Lets's get some more fire in the thick of the smoke.

Dana, what does the Iraq War have to do with 9/11? Nada, zippo zilch! All I can fo is say what I saw. You simply say there were no commercial planes on 9/11 is pretty much telling me that what I saw does not exist. No parts being verified, fine whatever. That still may not say somethin was a foot, but that still doesn't prove what you are saying as gospel. Independent photos and videos taken by ordinaty people prove 100% positive that there were planes. I can't prove what I saw, but I can tell you it wasn't a military plane. It may very well have been a decoy, but it was definately a commerical aircraft. Verifying what parts came from where, is beside the point. It is what it is. If you don't believe me, theres nothing myself or anyone else can do for you. Just stop with the bs.

On September 23, 2001 the BBC reported that four of the hijack "suspects" - Waleed Al Shehri, Abdulaziz Al Omari, Saeed Alghamdi - were alive, and that FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged "the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt."

I was working at Church St on 9-11....just minutes from where I live now in Hoboken. Myself and 4 others heard and saw NO PLANE until we heard the explosions coming from WTC 2. What we now have is what is known as "conflicting witnesses" and all you have to do is simply verify the debris and the case is closed. We are talking about planes crashing and not ghost sightings, all you need to do is verify the debris. AFTER 9 YEARS.....NOT ONE SINGLE MICROSCOPIC SPECK OF DEBRIS FROM ANY OF THE 4 PLANES FROM ANY OF THE 4 LOCATIONS ON 9-11 HAS EVER BEEN VERIFIED BY ANYONE! Bill....you are asking for "proof" that no commercial planes exists. Just one problem...YOU are the one saying a plane does exist? YOU should have to provide at LEAST ONE microscopic speck of verifiable debris?! Are you a liar? Never said that. Were they liars when they said there were WMD's in Iraq? No, it was a "failure of their intelligence". Maybe you had an intelligence failure. If it can happen to the US military, government, and media....certainly an intelligence failure could happen to you.....or the world? There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a lie.

Dana I am so glad I don't live in your world. You have basically have accused myself and any other eyewitness a liar. You were not there, you didn't see what I saw, and yet you continue to spew bs. You have no evidence and state because no one has tested or verified the parts found, you conclude there were no commerical planes used. You show no evidence or point to any existing evidence that can prove without a shadow of a doubt what those planes were besides commerical aircraft. It's time you put up or shut up. Better yet, why don't you pack a lunch and meet me in battery park tomorrow morning at about 9. Of course you won't show up because you are a COWARD!! 4 COMMERICAL PLANES WERE USED ON 9/11!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amalgom Virgo 01' says it all. Without media participation 9-11 could never have been carried out. The criminals of 9-11 learned quickly that they dont even need to stage events anymore, they can just simply lie, like WMD's in Iraq for example. Why risk anything? There's nothing the world can do to stop them. Here's a video about Amalgom Virgo which was the military's plan of crashing planes into buildings. It makes Able Danger and Tripod II look like mistakes? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=71b_1200215232

Q: "Has making it illegal to talk about been considered yet?" A: Yes it has. Sen Charles Schumer from NY wanted to pass something that basically made it a felony to even question 9-11. He tried the exact same thing immediately following the OKCity bombing in 1995. Interesting to note the similarities between the 2 events: Both OKCity and WTC's had CDI, Control Demolition Inc, seen before, during, and after each event at each location!!!! (Just watch the videos for days and weeks before 9-11 at ground zero. You will see CDI coming and going for weeks BEFORE 9-11 at WTC's 1,2,3,4,5,6, and 7 buildings. They even gave an NPR interview just weeks before 9-11 while they were in NYC doing "work" at the WTC's. ps....the FBI confiscated ALL the videos for the days and weeks just prior to 9-11 at ground zero just like they confiscated the 80+ videos from the Pentagon. The FBI now says no one can ever view any of these videos because of "national security"….thats because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Immediately following both events laws and rules were passed by Congress giving the President massive authority and eliminating the Constitution. Both events had the SAME EXACT INVESTIGATORS!!!!!! AND the same "airline" investigators of Flight TWA 800! CDI wrote the NIST report that said there were no demolitions used because "they didn't hear anything"!!!! Forget the fact that CDI didn't TEST for anything, they simply said no demolitions because of audio!

People on this forum have a difficult time understanding English. Here goes again: Never in the history of aviation crash scene investigations has a "witness", regardless of how many, EVER determined a plane crash. NEVER.....until 9-11. 9-11 is the ONLY aviation disaster in world history in which a "witness" verified a plane crash!!!! It has never happened before and it has not happened since. The posters on this forum STILL use "witnesses" as proof, evidence, and verification. Just to reiterate.....after 8 years....NOT ONE SINGLE SPECK OF DEBRIS FROM ANY OF THE 4 PLANES FROM ANY OF THE 4 LOCATIONS ON 9-11 HAS EVER BEEN INSPECTED, TESTED, ANALYZED, OR VERIFIED IN ANY WAY BY ANYONE!!!! That's almost 13 MILLION pieces of debris and NONE has ever been verified. The FBI has said it verified NOTHING because "we all saw it on TV" (Once you understand that the US media outlets are owned by the top US military contractors you will know why they rely on "TV" to provide the "proof".) There were no commercial planes on 9-11. Copy and save all the posts that demand you "believe" the official story. During an aviation crash investigation "beliefs" are irrelevant. Only debris matters. 9-11 is the first and only aviation disaster (FOUR OF THEM) in which video and witnesses "verified" the debris. That’s as terrible as the witness of blood can determine whose it is? Witnesses and video of blood has never in crime scene history determined whose it was. You must physically TEST and verify the DNA and type. No amount of video or witnesses will determine the DNA or type. That is identical to an aviation disaster. Only physical verification means anything. There were no commercial planes on 9-11.

After 9-11, close personal friends of GWBush recieved over $150,000,000,000 BILLION dollars in no-bid contracts. There were no commercial planes on 9-11. Research Burlingame's sister. He was the pilot on flight 77 into the Pentagon. She asked questions and wanted answers. When you question 9-11, this is what has happened to you. http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1368114/4717674

There were no commercial planes on 9-11. There is no video of a single one of the 256 "passengers" from any of the airports on 9-11 (Except Atta). None of the 256 "passengers" drove their own cars to the airports (Except Atta). Everyone's luggage was aboard the planes (Except Atta). EVERYONE on 9-11 paid for the plane tickets in CASH!!!!!!! On one flight, everyone bought their tickets THAT MORNING!!!!! The reason the world will find thermite everywhere at ground zero is because there was no jet fuel because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Immediately after 9-11 half the "highjackers" were alive and well outside the US. 4 of them offered to fly to the US and give interviews. Not ONE corporate owned US media outlet would run ANY story that 9-11 was a fraud and that the supposed highjackers were alive and well. History will show the complicity of the military corporation owned US media outlets (GE owns NBC, Westinghouse owns CBS, etc) There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The war on terror is a fraud.

Right on Steve! People want to deny and think that our country was so secure before 9/11 that to think 19 people were able to hatch a plan from a 3rd world country is impossible. Well, it's not. Our airport security before 9/11 was a complete joke. What I find amazing is that this event had not happened before hand. And for people who want say there were no commerical aircraft, keep smoking the peyote and living in lalaland. You were not there, you have not a clue or any proof as to what you are talking about! All your doing is veiwing grainy and blown up photos/videos from someone who wants you to see something different. I witnessed the South Tower impact. It was a shiny aluminum with red and white detail, like any other commerical aircraft. I can't sit here and say that it was without a doubt an American Airlines jet but it wasn't a military or cargo plane. The two biggest details I saw were the windows and the shiny aluminum that you see on a lot of commerical aircraft. But go ahead, call me a liar. At least a dozen or so people witnessed the same thing.

If any of these conspiracy theories were even close to being proven or truthfull for that matter, do you think that those responsible would allow that kind of behavior to continue? Wouldn't you think that by now someone who took part in it would come forward and provide some kind of evidence that proved government involvment beyond a shadow of a doubt. As someone else pointed out, there have been other events where people have come out. Why not this. Some have said because they would be killed. Well then that would pretty much prove the point don't you think?

Please excuse me for a moment Mike. . .Dana STFU! You are a brainwashed twit. I dare you to take your philosphy down to Ground Zero. The witnesses like "Bill" who has posted here a few times would laugh you all the back your parents basement. Mike I completely understand what your saying. The fact is this, much of what has been published or argued about what the NIST report says is pure theory and opinion. Until such evidence is proven otherwise, it will remain as theory. Thats not saying that there is no fire where there is a lot of smoke, but when you have little pinheads running around like Dana spewing garbage that has no weight, it's no wonder why people are turned off about it. I was in the Military for a while and understand the "need to know basis", but after a while everyone knows about it. It's naive to think that a small army of people could wire and weaken floors in both towers in under a few days or whatever without someone seeing something unusal. Why is it, that all the "I heard bombs" or "i saw a missle" stories are so rampant, but you never hear any stories about people who say "I saw 5 guys with hauling barrels and cordite in an elevator a week before 9/11". That makes no sense. The only way I would ever believe that the WTC was wired for explosives (and logically it makes sense)was when it was being constructed. You don't find it hard to believe at all that if it was a controlled demo, that both towers went off with out a hitch if it was wired recently? If this was such a highly planned military operation, they sure failed at some basic oversights that people think stick out like a sore thumb. Everyone wants to ignore/patronize the person who says they saw something that goes along with the official version. But as soon as someone says something that's completely opposite, everyone has an opinion.

The US has murdered 5 million people because 4 COMMERCIAL planes crashed on 9/11. They easily could have been military planes, missiles, rockets, nothing, bombs, launchers, remote demolitions, controlled demolitions, spider man……I dont know…..though what they were NEVER….was a commercial plane with people on them! Yet that IS the reason the US has killed and spent so much. There may have been planes….I dont know….they just were NOT commercial. There were no commercial planes on 9/11. The war on terror is a lie.

The reason that there were demolitions of some kind on 9-11 is because there was no jet fuel because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. It will take time to come to terms with all the implications of what no commercial planes on 9-11 really means. My top dozen includes that the US media, which is owned by the top US military corporations, lied and remained silent with regards to the truth that there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Another is that the entire never ending global US war on terror must end......it was all based on a fraud. There were no commercial planes on 9-11. It was all a fraud by the US military, government, and military corporation owned US media outlets. Everytime you hear a "news outlet" talk about terrorism, terrorists, the war on terror, the Sept 11th attacks, the war in Afghanistan, Patriot Act, TSA, Homeland Security, Military Commision Act.....understand that ALL of these entities came about because of 4 commercial planes with higjackers and "passengers" crashed on 9-11. Never forget that is a lie. There were no commercial planes on 9-11.

Mile Selene said; "the building power-downs, reports of heavy construction noises, that's all on record. Evidence for charges besides the video, try putting this into google and see what comes up -- "Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were heard and reported by numerous observers in and near the WTC Towers". LOL, you are killing me Mike. How long did this power down theory take place. If you are talking a full day, possibly. Don't tell tell you believe this was all done in a few hours. You would have to power down the building several times, during several days. People heard noises and you are stating that the noises were positively identified as construction noises? When they were structually weekened, where did all of materials go and who wouldn't have seen it removed? Not one person witnessed this? The likely hood of hearing explosions in "radid sequence" is more than likely echoes. Do you know how many intact floors they found in the foot prints of the buildings? Not a single one. Why is that strange? Because you get the exact opposite in a controlled demolition. Hense the word "controlled". If the collapse of the WTC was a controlled demo, it would be the worst one ever filmed.

If you seriously think if they planned this in advance that they would have over looked these so called "holes" in the official story, you are truly dumber than they are. Theoretical science can prove that an elephant can hang from a cliff with it's tail tied to daisy. But use your eyes and your common sense.

[In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft - and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. This is because every military and civilian passenger-carrying aircraft have many parts that are identified for safety of flight. That is, if any of the parts were to fail at any time during a flight, the failure would likely result in the catastrophic loss of aircraft and passengers. Consequently, these parts are individually controlled by a distinctive serial number and tracked by a records section of the maintenance operation and by another section called plans and scheduling. . . . The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. The hard evidence would have included hundreds of critical time-change aircraft items--George Nelson Colonel, USAF (ret.), "911 and the Precautionary Principle: Aircraft Parts as a Clue to their Identity," Physics911.net, April 23, 2005] THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is based on a murderous fraud, just like the US war on WMD's in Iraq. An excuse to borrow trillions and kill millions...and its never ending?!

I work for the state department. I was present for Mousawi's trial and viewed 3 videos of the Pentagon crash which have not been viewed by the public yet. One video from the Sheraton, one from a gas station and one from the Pentagon itself (not the security cam footage). In all 3 videos, not one shows a plane. We were told at the trial the same thing, that the plane was moving far to fast for the cameras to capture it. Although the Sheraton's camera had a faster speed. From what I have been told by credible sources, when these videos are released in Febuary 2010, there will be a plane in all 3.

All of this is complete nonsense. Myself as a witness have been spit on and called a liar and helping with the coverup. This no planes business is ridiculous. I was there! I saw it with my own eyes. The people who are a part of the infowars group said I was either on a hallucinogen or I was part of the coverup. That's crazier than most of the conspiracy theories. I'm a mail clerk in Manhattan for Christ sake! At least 20 people in my building who I know personally witnessed the second plane. It was a regular airplane that you would any day. There are links on those sites that Mike listed that are comparing news footage with and without showing a plane. I have no idea why. Trust me there was at least one plane involved.

I don't understand the helicopter footage. Throw me a bone.

Thanks Mike. I never really looked at it that way. Wow, I never thought that I would be thinking there might be something there. You are truly smart when it comes to this,I have different prespective now with that last link. What can I do to get the word out?

No Mike, the question is; how is it possible. Everyone wants to point how similiar demolition videos are from the collapse of the WTC. I'm no expert, but they are completely different. There are numerous differences in the controlled demo videos vs the WTC. First and formost, buildings scheduled for demo are gutted and weekend prior to demo. This process takes weeks sometimes and employs many people. You find it easy to believe that not one saw anything. Like the ESPN segment; C'mon Man! Secondly, the demo detonators or "squids" that go off long before the collapse. his does not occur in any of the WTC footage. And please, don't point out the footage of the "puffs" of smoke that emit from the building as such. The NIST report explains this phenomenon and it is even backed up by demolition experts. Do you find it conveinant that the buidlings do not begin to collapse in the same area that they were struck by, yes Dana COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT? Look at the footage of WTC1. The collapse begins in the core of the building near the roof. The antenna slowing sinks into the buidling as the core is failing. The core is failing because the plane seriously damaged it where it can no longer support the floors. The antenna then begins to fall as the core slips away from the floors until it reaches the impact point. Gravity eventually takes over. And if you continue to watch, the building doesn't free fall or fall into it's on foot print, it actual leans and topples over. Now, why don't you explain to me how a handful of people planted all of the "bombs" and how they did it without being noticed. If there were bombs in the buildings, what's the point of flying a plane into them?

The 9/11 conspiracy is a house of cards, as flimsy as the us dollar. Very few conspriacies have been able to survive more than a few years without some who was involved, began speakig out. Take the JFK assassination, the house select committe overwhelming agreed that JFK's death was more than likely the result of the conspiracy. People who have come forward with extremely credible information have proved that Oswald did not act alone. My point being, that event was on a extremely small scale compared to 9/11. Some things that conspiracy theorists seem to never consider is basic common sense. You would have to achieve an overwhelming group of support from a number of sources. The man power that would have taken place would probably blow you away. For those of you who think that 9/11 only employed a few hundred people, think about that. Just look at the this video. A large number of people woulf have been employed to just carry out what happened at the Pentagon. To think that not one single person by now would have come out and said (and the cab driver is full of it. If you think the people who did this would have allowed this man to talk, you are stupid) that they took part in it, is laughable. Of course many would say, they would be killed for it is a weak argument. Sometimes, life and liberty does not go as planned to some people. There is not a prison on the face of the planet that would be able to hold every individual who is behind this fable. And that is the number one question. You would have to over come the problem of the manpower behind it, before you start talk'n controlled demolitions and ghost planes. Of course none of you here who believe this garbage would ever even begin to explain that. You sure can dish it out, but you sure can't take it-sad.

This question, rather rant is to Dana. You seem to think that you are above above everyone, and that you have it figured all out. Why do you keep saying that there were no commerical aircraft on 9/11 when there is overwhelming evidence that proves otherwise? Your comment completely contradicts the evidence in this video from the eyewitnesses, including myself. Like I said before, I can't swear what I saw was an American Airlines jet that crashed in New York but it was definitely a commerical airliner without a doubt, I am 100% positive. Without calling me a liar or posting some website, please in your own words, tell me how I am wrong.

(Even though the "planes" of 9-11 were supposedly carrying over 50,000 gallons of jet fuel....not one drop has ever been verified. Jet fuel tested negative at ALL 4 locations on 9-11. There were no commercial planes on 9-11.) NO JET FUEL AT THE CRASH SITE Six days after 9/11, the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) began taking soil samples around the Flight 93 crash site, to test for jet fuel, hydraulic fluids, and other hazardous materials. At least three test wells were sunk to monitor groundwater for signs of contamination. [5] According to the National Transportation Safety Board, Flight 93 had about 37,500 pounds of fuel remaining when it crashed, which was around 77 percent of its fuel load on takeoff. [6] Yet the DEP tests found no evidence of this huge volume of jet fuel at the crash site. Two weeks after the tests began, DEP spokeswoman Betsy Mallison reported that "no contamination has been discovered." [7] She said that, "whether it burned away or evaporated," much of the jet fuel assumed to have spilled at the site "seems to have dissipated." [8]

I have known 6 years ago that a missile hit the pentagon and the twin towers as well.

Q: "What the hell really happened to the women and children who were on the plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon but was actually diverted elsewhere? The bastards must have murdered them all." R: Who knows what these killers did to those people. Until the plane is verified these "passengers" are missing persons. Not people on a plane. Research all the passengers at "Killtown passengers". Very strange connections to Murdoch, government, military, and military owned US media. To give you an idea of what they may have done....the severed hands of a stewardess was "found" at the WTC's. If they are willing to planet chopped off hands....you tell me what they did? There were no commercial planes on 9-11. Within the next 2 weeks you will hear 1000's of government, military, and media extolling the virtues of combating terrorism, remembering the victims of terrorism on 9-11, the people killed on 9-11, and why the US must continue the never ending war on terror because of the horrific events of 9-11. Just remember....THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11. Every last word is a lie. These criminals have maintained the lie for so long. Listen to the traitors who continue it and never forget who they are. There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a fraud. Just like the WMD's in Iraq....an excuse to borrow trillions and kill millions.

What the hell really happened to the women and children who were on the plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon but was actually diverted elsewhere? The bastards must have murdered them all.

It is sad and most disturbing what some people will do to have power and wealth. Nothing matters and no one matters - only their One World goal to dominate. If we only look at history - we can see the writing on the wall and may God have mercy on all of us!

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Witnesses have never in aviation history verified a plane crash....EXCEPT ON 9-11. 9-11 became the FIRST and ONLY aviation disaster in world history in which witnesses and video "verified" a plane crash. Every other crash in world history had been verified through debris and wreckage. There could have been 1 trillion witnesses, only debris verifies a plane or a plane crash. After 8 years not one single piece of the debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations from 9-11 has ever been physically verified in any way by anyone. The FBI has now said it verified NOTHING and NEVER will with respects to "debris" because "we all saw it on TV". There were no commercial planes on 9-11. To all the officers and former police on this forum......why is it that the debris should never be verified? I know....there were no commercial planes on 9-11. The US has killed millions of people based on that lie.

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I think to say that because no debris has been linked to any of the planes mean, that there were no commerical planes, contradicts with what these witnesses say. All of them describe a commerical airliner. I think it's better to say that they were in fact commerical aircraft, but anyone involved in any form of identification of those parts is also part of the cover up. They are just masqurading for the cover up. Unless done independently, I wouldn't trust anything anyone would say about the parts. And of course if it came down to showing proof, they would just make up the evidence anyway. It's not difficult to believe that the planes were either the real deal or decoys.

When I wanted to verify a single piece of WMD from Iraq…I was called very very stupid, gullible, disinformationist, liberal, tree hugging, kool-aid drinking, tinfoil hat wearing loser who hated our troops and despised our country. Then guess what happened? Not one single piece of WMD could ever be physically verified in any way, even though there were photos, video, and witnesses…suddenly it was an “intelligence failure” and a lie. Did we leave Iraq? Of course not…..that would be stupid and gullible. Fast forward to wanting to verify ANY of the plane parts from 911 which actually began all of this war and killing. I am now called very very stupid, gullible, disinformationist, kool-aid drinking, tinfoil hat wearing, loser who hates our troops and our country. Though guess what? Not one single piece out of a possible 13.1 million pieces from the airliners on 911….has EVER been verified in any way from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 911. Not one single piece. On Sept 12th 2001…the White House said that 911 was an “intelligence failure”. Maybe they were just foreshadowing themselves?

The SAME contractor that did the “reinforcement” work at the Pentagon also did the “reinforcement” work at WTC’s 1, 2, and 7!!!!!! There were no commercial planes on 9-11. It was planned. To think that they planted the demolitions on the day of 9-11 is to truly think that the criminals came up with the idea that morning?!!!! There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The events of 9-11 were staged and planned long before that day. There were no commercial planes on 9-11. WTC7 was an add on to the plan from Silverstein and the financial powers that be. When WTC7 collapsed it ended the criminal prosecution of over 4000 financial criminal cases including the largest ever known at the time….Enron. The very same humans whose cases were dismissed were the same people who are now recieveing the TRILLION dollar bailouts. That;s why you can never know where the TARP and bailout money is going. There were no commercial planes on 9-11.

If you think for one minute that "if" any of this evidence came to light, it would change anything your crazy. Much of what this and other videos present is factual. However most of it is delusional. The conspiracy theories and videos like this, only stokes the "official" phony version. The perpetrators agenda rests entirely on the lie. The same way governments hide the existance life beyond our world. They hide it in plain site and rely on theories that a majority of the people believe is so crazy that they refuse to even examine it much less accept it. This is the reason that if it ever came to light, nothing would happen. No one but the phony terrorists will ever be prosecuted from this false event, if you think differently, your sorely mistaken. There is no house of cards, no man or court would ever dare to stand up to it. The US has been trying to gain a foot hold/ presence in the middle east. This event was created for this purpose because it needed overwhelming support from foreign powers. There is no such thing as the "War on Terror", it's only reality is what you see on the news and on paper. In the coming months, you will begin to a dramatic shift toward Iran. The Iranian powers stand to gain substantial resources for allowing/participating in a false conflict or as the media calls it, regime change. 9/11 was not a big event, compared to the day to day events and future of the world. On a scale of 1 to 10, it's barely a 2.

Mike, you are such a lost person. No need to post or point me to websites. I spent 39 years in the military, 26 of which I held an above level 3 security clearance. I know more on this subject than you could ever dream. While most of you were crapping your pants, I worked out of the atomic office and oversaw projects developed right out of Oppenheimer's office. I spent a number of years working with McDonnel Douglas and and other contractors on stealth technology from alternative sources, or what some of you may consider reverse engineeing, catch my drift? All the planes used on 9/11 were commerical decos, with no identifying parts. The plane that flew away from the Pentagon joined other air traffic and no was the wiser. The explosion at the Pentagon, was planted explosives. Not a projectile. The reason I said no one cares is not personal opinion. It's a fact. The gov has the power to make the media and the people fall asleep. There is not a man behind the curtain Mike, the US is a puppet county. Washington is a false institute controlled by foreign powers. And yes Mike, there was a great time in this country long before you were born. The only false memory, will be very existance.

So what that it was a cover up or inside job. Even if the perpetrators held a press conference tomorrow admitting it and why, wouldn't change a thing. People would of course be shocked and angered over the whole thing at first, but do you think anything would change? Nothing would, except the fact that everyone can now confirm the government lies. Shocker! There wold be no revolt, no revolution. The government would not be over thrown. People would not show up at the White House's front door with torches and pitch forks. It would just go back to being business as usual, ho hum. I commend the film makers, the people of the 9/11 truth movement and the peopl expressing their thoughts here, I really do. Unfortunately your efforts will go un-noticed because no one cares anymore more either way. Instead of dwelling upon getting more people to acknowledge or listen to you, just except that fact that you got served on 9/11/01 and stay at home with your family. Tell your children how much you love them and how life in America used to be. An America they themselves and future generations will never know.

That is complete bs Dana. I live in Lower Manhattan I witnessed the second plane hitting Tower 2. It was definately a commerical aircraft. I can't say to 100% certainty that it was an American Airlines jet, but it was a marked commerical airline. But I guess you'll call me a liar just like most of the nut job low lifes you'll find at ground zero. Whats funny is you can't even ask them a question without them screaming at you. A few months ago I politely asked a guy what he thought about the whole ordeal and that I witnessed the towers fall. This guy became so enraged when I asked him what facts he had he almost got arrested.

The Homeland Security Agency was established because 4 commercial planes with terrorists on them crashed. Just one problem...THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11. The Patriot Acts 1 and 2 were passed within a month of 9-11 because 4 commercial planes crashed on 9-11. Just one problem...THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11. The reason the TSA, two preemptive invasions and wars, a never ending global war on terror, renditions, wiretapping, and torture without charges occurred was because 4 commercial planes crashed on 9-11. Just one problem….THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11. Obama, even after 8 years, is sending thousands more troops to Afghanistan because 4 commercial planes crashed on 9-11 and that’s the location where “they” were originally hiding. Just one problem….THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11. An average 757 or 767 aircraft has roughly 3.1 million pieces that can identify which plane the part came from. On 9-11 that’s almost 13 MILLION pieces. After 8 years….NOT ONE single piece of debris from ANY of the 4 planes from ANY of the 4 locations from 9-11 has EVER been tested, inspected, analyzed, or verified in ANY WAY by ANYONE. Why…….THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a murderous, conspired, colluded, treasonous LIE and fraud. They have done it before and they will do it again. If they think they got away with 9-11 just imagine what the next murderous staged event will be involving the military, government, and military owned US media outlets?

I know Adam, I did miss them. Thats why I sed that I answered my own question. They should have included that in the video. This is by far one of the bestest movies i have seen. It nail in the coffen. Points ro george Bush, so obveous.

Bret said: "How come when you guys interviewed the witnesses, you never asked them to describe what the plane looked like. Oh never mind, I answered my own question." They did ask them, Bret. You must have missed the part of the video where they explained that the interviews were edited for conciseness in National Security Alert but the full interviews are available on their site CitizenInvestigationTeam.com I suggest you watch this one, "Flight 77: The White Plane". http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/videos-thewhiteplane.html

In another 2 months I will be 75.I worked in machine shops for 42 years. Stupid I am not. I had the highest IQ ever when I went to Boston to take my test. 2 years later I was in the Army and went to school to learn how to repare Jeeps and larger Trucks. we took 6 tests with around 50 or 60 questions and got them all right. The reason I started with the uper things was to bring your attentin to it. There are a huge amount of pepole

I responded directly on topic. I simply stated that you have provided information that indirectly discredits your theory. Just like if I said I the car is red, you would then need to provide information or evidence that contradicts that statement. You can say and post whatever. I am not saying that these "witnesses" are lying, but people like yourself, seem to think that when some says they saw a commerical airline hit a building they are lying. And they futher try and twist it by saying their testimony is not reliable because they were not under oath. Thousands of cases are prosecuted each year without sworn statements. A sworn statement, is a not a golden ticket. Afer all, people lie under oath all day long.

And Mike, if you would read through that link you provided me, you would know that parts that hold distintive markings, (meaning those with significant information in order to determine the origin)such as when that site states "not all numbers have and can be verified. Thats pretty much enough for an investigator like myself to understand that not only can an argument be made that is difficult not impossible, that certain debris cannot be verified as to it's origin. Strike 2 for you.

Yeah Mike and...? I could have sat here and provided all that info myself, but I have better things to do. Here you go again with your childish, 12 year old poor attempt at humor pics, that only seem to amuse you. This why, no one can have an adult conversation with someone like your self. And this exactly how I figure someone like yourself would respond. Instead of searching for "funny" banter, why not find something to add to the discussion? If not, why bother responding at all. Trust me, I would love to believe all of this stuff. But for people like myself and Nick and other Law Enforcement workers, we rely on facts and evidence that proves a theory beyond a shadow of a doubt that produces a factual conclusion. Just because something doesn't seem right to you, doesn't mean someone is hiding the truth. If that was the case, I would be out of a job. And just so you know, I have a held a high conviction rate for a number of years.

Hey Nick, are you retired or active?

Dana, how do you know what they were spraying on the fire? Do you possess firefighting knowledge to know when and what to use put out a certain fire? It's evident in many of the Pentagon photos, that they are spraying foam. One apparatus in particular does not even equiped to use water. So what they are not wearing masks, perhaps those people were not told to do so or they were careless in their own right. You said, "Not one court case has ever been presented as to what was seen, filmed, broadcast, or verified from ANY of the 4 locations from any of the 4 "planes"." So what? That proves nothing. No commerical aircraft on 9/11. So all the witnesses who have said they saw commerical aircraft are lying? You also said "You mention all these witnesses.....have ANY of them givin sworn statements? NO...none have!" And that proves what? I have a literally thousands of pages of people who have given statements who were not under oath to various crimes and disputes. Happens all the time, why do you find that so strange?

To yeh and comments. A "code of silence", haha. Please, tell everyone here what that means. Some of the 19 hijackers are still alive? Ok, so with all of this "inside job" planning, the "real killers" forgot to make them disappear. Please point us to where we can see "real" evidence of this. And if some of them are still alive, how come we have not heard from them? No evidence from the planes themselves. Your basing a theory that because the actual debris collected can not be verified as coming from any of the planes? Do you know for a fact that each individual piece of debris can actually be traced back to the air craft it came from? Having worked hundreds of auto accidents in my life, I can tell you that finding the origin of what part came from what car is difficult if not impossible to determine. It's not like the debris has a number or sign on it telling someone where it came from, LOL.

Steven...if it was a plane crash at the Pentagon and there was jet fuel everywhere.....why was NO ONE wearing a mask AND they were spraying WATER on a fuel fire? There were no commercial planes on 9-11. NOT ONE WITNESS has ever been under oath. Not one court case has ever been presented as to what was seen, filmed, broadcast, or verified from ANY of the 4 locations from any of the 4 "planes". You mention all these witnesses.....have ANY of them givin sworn statements? NO...none have! Why? Because there were no comemrcial planes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a lie. The US has now killed 5 million people based on the lies of 9-11. That shouldn't surprise anyone. So far the US has killed 2 million Iraq's because of WMD's which never existed despite video, witnesses, and film?!!! There were no commercial planes on 9-11.

How come when you guys interviewed the witnesses, you never asked them to describe what the plane looked like. Oh never mind, I answered my own question.

Too many people would have to be involved? You mean like 19 Saudi Arabian men controlled by a man living in a cave on the other side of the planet? Why were 8 of the 19 "highjackers" alive and well and giving interviews after 9-11 saying they couldn't understand why the US would say they flew planes and killed people? Why has not ONE SINGLE PIECE of debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 ever been verified in any way? The pieces shown to the world on 9-11 have never been verified(FOIA request 2008). The US media outlets are financially owned and controlled by the top US military contractors. GE owns NBC, Westinghouse owns CBS etc. When you ask if the media could have been involved....by definition the media takes their orders FROM the military. That may explain why you have never heard that there were no commercial planes on 9-11. It will expose the US media to charges of conspiracy to murder. In terms of witnesses at a plane crash...witnesses have NEVER verified a plane or plane crash...only wreckage does. EXCEPT ON 9-11!!!!!! 9-11 became the FIRST aviation disaster in WORLD HISTORY in which video and witnesses "verified" a plane crash. Does the video or witness to blood verify the blood type or DNA? No….you must physically test it?!! Except on 9-11….no debris was ever tested or verified in any way!!!! There were no commercial planes on 9-11. Like dozens of other staged military actions by the US to allow it into a war....9-11 was no different. Whether it took 1 person or a million is irrelevant. It is the silence of these criminals that is deafening. Nick...you've been a cop. How is that cops can keep quite when they KNOW another officer has committed a crime??!!! It’s a "code of silence"?!! The same thing exists with 9-11....it just involves more code and more silence. There were no commercial planes on 9-11. It is going to take time to understand all the implications. Trust is the first thing that will be shattered.

How is it that you were able to gather all these witnesses who saw a plane flying on a opposite path, and you were not able to find a witness who actually saw the plane hit the building?

Here are the facts. Not guesses, speculation or spin. 104 people directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon. 6 people were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact. 26 people mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet. 39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner. 2 people described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a "commuter plane" but didn't mention the size. 7 people said it was a Boeing 757. 8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief. 2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport. 4 people made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon. 10 people said the plane's flaps and landing gear were not deployed (1 thought landing gear struck a light pole). 16 people mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it's unknown if they saw them hit. 42 people mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts. 2 people mentioned bodies still strapped into seats. 15 people mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel. 3 people had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged. 3 people took photographs of the aftermath.(within minutes that showed plane debris, which makes your case of planting them laugable) Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said "3-4 warnings." And of course, 0 saw a military aircraft or missile strike the Pentagon. 0 saw a plane narrowly miss the Pentagon and fly away. How does it feel that you spent countless amounts of money and time over a 3 year period, when I was able to shred your video into a thousand pieces in less than 5 minutes?

Before any of the speculative evidence presented in this film and others can be considered, including all of the other conspiracy theories is the participation. An operation of this size would have to include hundres, if not thousands plus individuals. I'm talking about not only people in our government, but abroad. State level, local law enforcement, the media, public and private firms as well as ordinary citizens. If you don't believe that, than you are just a nut. And if you do believe thats what happened, do you really think a secret of that size could be contained within a group of that sort? I have been in law enforcement for over 30 years. And one thing I can tell you is that if you rely soley on eyewitness testimony to prove facts or even a theory, the percentage rate at which you are going to find provable evidence is low. I can't tell you the number of times that I have interviewed a dozen witnesses about an event were about 90% of the testimony was either same or similar in fashion about what someone saw, only later to find factual evidence that proved otherwise.

What does NO PLANES on 911 mean?

What does NO PLANES on 911 mean? • It means you will never be able to see or verify any evidence of any plane at any of the 4 locations on 911. EVER. • It means you will never verify a single voice recorder or verifiable black box from any the 4 locations. • It means the media and the government would had to have faked dozens of videos…..with the possibility of dozens of inconsistencies when you compare the videos side-by-side • It would mean the media would then be complicit in the crimes and would pretty much have to do whatever it was told in terms of not covering crimes of the Bush regime at least until Bush was out of office. • It would mean that the media must have committed many more crimes and cover-ups from other events over the last 7 years. Looking back on Katrina….coverage was terribly lacking….with more people dying or going missing from New Orleans than all the victims of the WTC’s combined! • It means you will constantly find discrepancies in eyewitness testimony. • It means there were no highjackers and that all the information provided by the government was a lie. It means you will find 100’s of inconsistencies with the governments story of the highjackers, how they boarded, why they were never on the passenger lists, never been identified with DNA, and why as evidence only their passports are to be found at any of the crash sites….and no one else’s?! • It means that the “videos” shown on live TV will be different and “cleaned-up” by the time the evening news rolls around • It means the War on Terror was a lie • It means our military has lost 1000’s of soldiers based on 100% lies • It means Sadam Hussein and Bin Laden had nothing to do with 911 • It means the UK was in on the lies and never once questioned any evidence • It means the “video” takers must be tried for treason • No planes means there is now much greater understanding of why demolitions had to be used

What does NO PLANES on 911 mean? • It means you will never be able to see or verify any evidence of any plane at any of the 4 locations on 911. EVER. • It means you will never verify a single voice recorder or verifiable black box from any the 4 locations. • It means the media and the government would had to have faked dozens of videos…..with the possibility of dozens of inconsistencies when you compare the videos side-by-side • It would mean the media would then be complicit in the crimes and would pretty much have to do whatever it was told in terms of not covering crimes of the Bush regime at least until Bush was out of office. • It would mean that the media must have committed many more crimes and cover-ups from other events over the last 7 years. Looking back on Katrina….coverage was terribly lacking….with more people dying or going missing from New Orleans than all the victims of the WTC’s combined! • It means you will constantly find discrepancies in eyewitness testimony. • It means there were no highjackers and that all the information provided by the government was a lie. It means you will find 100’s of inconsistencies with the governments story of the highjackers, how they boarded, why they were never on the passenger lists, never been identified with DNA, and why as evidence only their passports are to be found at any of the crash sites….and no one else’s?! • It means that the “videos” shown on live TV will be different and “cleaned-up” by the time the evening news rolls around • It means the War on Terror was a lie • It means our military has lost 1000’s of soldiers based on 100% lies • It means Sadam Hussein and Bin Laden had nothing to do with 911 • It means the UK was in on the lies and never once questioned any evidence • It means the “video” takers must be tried for treason • No planes means there is now much greater understanding of why demolitions had to be used

This film, despite it's dreadful implications, comes as an awful relief. I, and I am sure many other ordinary Americans, have long felt betrayed by the official explanation of the New York, Pennsylvania, and Pentagon incidents. How can we not demand a full investigation of all three?

No I am very interested in acknowledging what I see here. I don't have all the answers and neither do you. But I am not seeing anything in this video (even though it raises some questions, and answers them as well) that we have not seen or heard before. Show me something that I can say, "yeah, well maybe that did happen or didn't" Here's one questions: why did the film makers not interview the eyewitnesses who actually saw the plane on the official flight path and witness it hitting the building. I can answer that, because it somewhat discredits their opinion. Why not show both sides of the accounts and compare?

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And Mike, your childish pictures trying to insult me, just goes to show what kind of a person you are. Grow up and lets have a serious adult conversation.

And Mike, the reason there was no debris found at Shanksville, was because flight 93 did not crash there.

Nice plagerism of Oliver Stone there Jesse "The nature of human beings is that they exaggerate. They make it bigger. They make it better. I knew guys in combat who made up stuff. So what is history? Who knows?"

Ahh Jesse. Pot meet kettle with your grammer.

First, Jason your grammer is horrible. Secondly, no you are not the only one who sees this. If CIT discounts the hundreds of eyewitness who the observed the plane on the north side as being wrong, would it not also be fair to say that the eyewitnesses who saw a plane on the South side be wrong as well. And since not one of those witnesses actually saw the plane impact the building, how can any be sure that it was Flight 77? And could you be anymore leading with your questions to these witnesses about what they saw. The nature of human beings is that they exaggerate. They make it bigger. They make it better. I knew guys in combat who made up stuff. So what is history? Who knows?

How come you don't interview any of the eyewitnesses who saw the plane on the North side? If you don't show both sides of the story kinda makes the rest of video pointless don't you think? I am I the only one who sees this?

I've seen some things, but until now I have not seen conditions of fascism where freedom rings. The downward spiral that has picked up pace, is quickly getting out of hand ,and this country will be gone without a trace. So many lies, and truth, in so much less, this coup is showing a face of extreme ugliness. The usurper president with his big joker grin, reads the teleprompter for his masters, void of truth again. This treasonous congress does not speak for you, they jump through the hoops of the evil jew coup. Call me what you will, go ahead and laugh it off, very soon your ignorant laugh will turn to a deep cough. There will come a day, and very soon indeed, that it will be impossible to escape these outright criminals of greed. You are in denial, you just wont react, the ruins will lay smoking while your house and lives are jacked. First of all, the media is controlled by the same crooks that are in power, turn off that damn television for it distracts from your final hour. Secondly. this huge, huge lie about a flu pandemic here, was manufactured for one thing, to enact a state of fear. The flu will not kill us but the vaccinations will, just a way to save the day, a sort of population pill. Third, look out for more attacks by some invented enemy again, a nuke, a bio-weapon, then martial law, what then? One day soon we will wake up and look outside, the difference will be night and day, and it will be too late you'll see, they took us for a ride. Ignore and hope, ignore and hope, just like you've been trained to do, hope in one hand and shit in the other, it's the same thing, I'm telling you.

In response to Stacy's comment "there were no commercial planes on 9-11" Yet there is overwhelming evidence that proves otherwise. The Global War on Terror will only end when murders like the 19 hijackers are taking a dirt nap.

a website for you. http://www.wanttoknow.info/911information

there were no commercial planes on 9-11. the never ending global US war on terror must end. Bring our soldiers home.

You make baseless comments about theories without facts. Everyone wants to point out the theories of the conspiracy morons, but no one ever wants to comment on how such a feat could have been constructed, not one conspiracy video or individual has attempted this. I wonder why? Do you think maybe because it would be next to impossible to construct such a yarn that would tie all of the CT together? It's easier to spread misinformation and only show what people want or hope to see rather than for them to see it for what it really is. And I am firm believer in government and worldly conspiracies. This one is so far fetched it's laughable. If 9/11 was an inside job, it would have taken thousands of people to have pulled it off. Everyone from high ranking government positions and beyond all the way down to private citizens. If you don't think so, then you are just someone who follows the crowd. And you seriously believe that of all those thousands of people, not one would have loose lips regardless of what they were promised or denied? That is biggest thing to get passed and the only thing that holds this fable in place. So many people now are joining groups like 9/11 truthers as bandwagoneers who saw a well made documentry or joined because of a celebrity. Most of the people who are in this crowd have never read any of the official documents cover to cover, even if it's to support their theories. Instead, they rely on people that only show one side of it. A side that makes the way they show or tell it, to automatically dimiss facts and the official version. Do you know how many holes and flat out lies that are in told in films like "Loose Change". All one has to do is watch that film and then read the 9/11 and NIST reports. Those guys simple talk out of their arse and have no idea what their talking about. And when someone confronts them with facts of the official version, do you think they stand their ground? No they scram like roaches when the lights come on. Cowards!

The people who pulled this off have all the money. They have all the power. They have everything at their disposal. People say explain this and explain that. It should be very suspicious that the port authority allowed Larry Silverstein to acquire those buildings. It should very suspicious why those Israeli companies left the trade towers. If the FBI would wiretap Larry Silverstein's and the Israeli companies that left the buidlings they might hear one of them say, that damn Silverstein, he said they were going to take those buildings down. Then they can arrest them and Silverstein like they do the mafia. But the Mossad agents caught filming the event. Larry Silverstein and the Israeli companies that left and the CIA people who made millions and the Jews who warned the other Jews to get out of the buildings are not being under survelliance or having their phones tapped. They spend years getting the mafia who extort money and most of the time kill each other. But the Jews kill 3,000, but with all this evidence our FBI is doing nothing. Why aren't they asking any of these Jews about the instant message they got to get out of the trade towers? This is how the Jews work together. They walked out and could have told the people left in the towers, but the Jews walked out. Let the pogroms begin. Could it be just before this stuff took place the Jews just like they did in Germany and Russia had Jews in place in high levels like they do now in the FBI. A Zionist Jew is head of the FBI. If the people of this country all of a sudden turned against the Jews they would be crying anti-semitism. We need another Constitution.=, because somehow the Jews have managed to make the one we got null and void. This one will read no Jews will be allowed into America. We just don't allow them into the country. If the citizens could gain control of this country, because the poor politicians are so blackmailed and afraid to do anything. We need some anti- Jewish laws.

The people who pulled this off have all the money. They have all the power. They have everything at their disposal. People say explain this and explain that. It should be very suspicious that the port authority allowed Larry Silverstein to acquire those buildings. It should very suspicious why those Israeli companies left the trade towers. If the FBI would wiretap Larry Silverstein's and the Israeli companies that left the buidlings they might hear one of them say, that damn Silverstein, he said they were going to take those buildings down. Then they can arrest them and Silverstein like they do the mafia. But the Mossad agents caught filming the event. Larry Silverstein and the Israeli companies that left and the CIa people who made millions and the Jews who warned the other Jews to get out of the buildings are not being under survelliance or having their phones tapped. They spend years getting the mafia who extort money and most of the time kill each other. But with all this evidence our FBI is doing nothing. Why aren't they asking any of these Jews about the instant message they got to get out? This is how the Jews work together. They walked out and could have told the people left in the towers, but the Jews walked out. Let the pogroms begin. Could it be just before this stuff took place the Jews just like they did in Germany and Russia had Jews in place in high levels like they do now in the FBI. A Zionist Jew is head of the FBI. If the people of this country all of a sudden turned against the Jews they would be crying anti-semitism. We need to write another Constitution. This one will read no Jews will be allowed into America. This way we wouldn't have to say no Jews should be able to own a television or radio station. We just don't allow them into the country. If the citizens could gain control of this country, because the poor politicians are so blackmailed and afraid to do anything. They keep making anti-smoking laws, when we need anti-Jewish laws.

Enough of the bullshit. We know it was an inside job. There is a paper trail leading to CIA people who made millions. We know Bush was in that school in Florida, because he wanted to be away from Washington. We know no jets were sent to itnercept the planes. We know no 757 hit the Pentagon. We know no 757 crashed in Pa, because there is no wreckage. We know a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon and we know the 757s that left those airports that morning hit the trade towers. What we do know it exposives caused the towers to collapse and the gold in the vaults was taken. We know tower seven imploded to destroy all the evidence the IRS and other agencies had about wrong doings. This is a call to the patriots and militia of America. The FBI and Federal Marshall have neglected their jobs. Disban these inept agencies and the CIA. We have enough evidence to hang George Bush, Dick Cheney, Congo Rice and the top three people in the CIA. The top levels of the FBI are involved, because the FBI took video cameras from locations that could have proved what happened. Hang them bastards.

Let's stop with the speculation and the he/said she said factor. Stop with speculation and rumor mill. Instead of shouting "9/11 was an inside job", prove it with hard core facts, not ideas or "might have". Films such as this always fall short of the smoking gun. And that smoking gun is how was 9/11 actually carried out "if" it was an "inside job". How was the WTC, wired for destruction? How was the building structurally weakend to allow the "bombs", "squibs" to allow a "near perfect" collapse, how long would that have taken? How was WTC 7 done in the same manner? How is that the thousands of people that where involved are kept quiet? What do you say to the people who have nothing to gain by saying they actually saw the plane that hit the Pentagon? Why are they always attacked and labled as particpants or liars? It's films like this that throw out the smoke screen so that others do not think on their own and read the official reports. Thats how they thrive, don't read the official documents, look out our stuff. No wonder, the world thinks America is stupid. With outlandish claims and stupidity, can you blame them?

What a bunch of crap.

About time, this should be shown by national networks - as a point for debate - at the least.

The Way it Is: Very few are in the act. More are aware of what's really happening. Most are ignorant and don't want to know.

Does this have anything to do with the BESTIALITY CULT IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST? I LOVE HORSES!!

I was in a family for more than 26 years who after marrying joined a huge criminal system linked with the Federal Government. It wasn't until a little later they opened up and talked about what the family was involved in. In the 90's they were more open and we were all told about 911 only then it was called "Something big is planned that will start everything". There were three sites being reviewed at that time with New York being one of them. The family's job within the criminal system is to launder criminal money into property. In the 90's they joined with the O'Connor family since my sister-in-law at that time is an O'Connor and her brother Clyde was just released from the service. Clyde and my Ex-brother-in-law went into a partnership with my ex-brother-in-law being a silent partner. They went to a well known law firm in Chciago known for a strong link with the "Combine" or Shadow Government for assistance with setting up their new business in Florida. An attorney specializing in Constitutional Law was working there and assisted the family in setting up their business. His name is Barack Obama. The family felt they had the "best" to help them and were confident everything would turn out alright. Meet the family: Mexico drug plane used for US 'rendition' flights: report - Sep 4, 2008 http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j6QonBKKMo2gw1e3ql-xUcQEZbVg Please note the CIA link as the family often bragged about being a CIA Asset. Also don't miss all the drugs in bags as that is how the Black Ops are being funded. I was also told in some detail about the Collapse of our Economy among many other plans. Marty Didier Northbrook, IL

From day one, I knew that our government was behind 911 and its residual effects. Recently, I saw a movie "Rise To Power", which specifically told the story of 911, including all the details of how Bush reacted, the purpose, the people involved, and all the details. To me, it was as though Bush was pleased because he knew it was going to happen. Presently, I am searching for that movie. I also wonder how long it will be before the government decides to shut us up. When the euro dollar is instituted, then everyone will be required to use a microchip (inserted in their hand) to access the money, and then the government will know exactly where anyone is at any given time. Started out with animals, now they are microchipping children (in case they get lost - yeah, right!). Soon it will be a law that everyone must have one. For those who don't take it, they will be hunted down, and either executed, or microchipped in their forehead. You heard it here first!! And the Queen of the South shall rise up in the judgment with this generation. Sound crazy? Just keep living, you'll see. Nobody thought our government was capable of the kind of evil that caused 911 either.

the middle east controls women,men are in charge,when they come to America they hate women here who have rights, I would get them all out of the u.s. they have been killing themselves for years and beyond, its funny that gods son is from Isral and all they do is kill,kill there is no love they fight for a god no one sees believe in what u want dont force others to follow,they waste there lives for alla and the virgins they will get in heaven,what a joke they are so pea brained. I would love to see a female president and see how she would handle the men and there war toys, its all about money John Kennedy killed by our own for oil, Monore killed for what she knew about the Kennedys, Robert killed for going after mafia who put him in power with his brother Im just here to watch the show, waiting for the public to rise like they did in the 60s, but that wont happen cause they are no longer hanging around with nothing to do but beg for money and fight for viet nam,fonda. they should of been fighting the irs when u win thay the public gets control when u get the gov off life time benifits, pay raises we need that change. wake up people, the show right in front of u.

I will add this info and websites to "Wolves from the Sheep" An "indictment" and "challenge" against and to: "Main Stream Media" #34."Wolves from the Sheep" At eveplebeodious.blogspot.com thanks for this great article. Cisco d

Hello Truthseekers & Truthtellers, We don't have all the exact answers about what happened on 9/11/01 but we have a lot of investigative research that all adds up to a huge deception of the American public resulting in treason and murder of our citizens. The combined investigative research into the events of 9/11/01 will go down in the annals of history as the greatest investigative research done by "we the people" for the greatest crime ever committed against us on our mainland. Let's keep up the investigative research and keep the pressure on those that choose to deceive us. As the ageless say goes: THREE THINGS CANNOT LONG BE HIDDEN THE SUN,THE MOON AND THE TRUTH. Thanks to all those that choose to make the truthful events of 9/1/01 a vital part of thier lives in order to make this a more peaceful world to live in. Take Care Matt

THANK YOU!! for this honest coverage of the only honest investigations of 9/11, the crime of the century. It is "long overdue, but worth waiting for." If the truth of 9/11 is in control of this country, rather than the lies of 9/11, we will have change here, profoundly positive, dramatic and fundamental change that will benefit the American people enormously.

The U.S. GOV is 666, the Scum that FATIMA talked about as the last evil secret of GOD. Jews (Zionists) just have a death wish for HELL?

The caption underneath the image supposedly of gauges as seen from "Black Box" data indicate that the planes altitude was 180 feet "above ground". Is "ground" indeed the correct reference point? Could it be that the altitude was actually 180 feet above SEA LEVEL? I don't know the altitude of the Pentagon above Sea Level but if it was at a certain height above sea level, and the plane was actually 180 feet above sea level, then the plane could have struck the Pentagon. I don't know the details here but am playing devil's advocate on that one issue if someone has the altitude for the Pentagon and wants to do the math.

The caption underneath the image supposedly of gauges as seen from "Black Box" data indicate that the planes altitude was 180 feet "above ground". Is "ground" indeed the correct reference point? Could it be that the altitude was actually 180 feet above SEA LEVEL? I don't know the altitude of the Pentagon above Sea Level but if it was at a certain height above sea level, and the plane was actually 180 feet above sea level, then the plane could have struck the Pentagon. I don't know the details here but am playing devil's advocate on that one issue if someone has the altitude for the Pentagon and wants to do the math.

Tremendous cross-examination evidence produced here. The only negative is that credibility suffers from the commercial exploitation as evidenced by the many references to "Pilots for 911 Truth", which charges money. Other than that, though, this is shocking.

Musicman, you asked: "What would these folks tell the families of the passengers who were on Flight 77? " Go to their site CitizenInvestigationTeam.com, go to the FAQ section, and read the first one.

Shame the FBI had to seize all the video evidence of the "terrorist attack" on the pentagon. Im sure some of that would give the definitive answers in seconds!. What was the reason for seizing the security footage for all surrounding premises anyway?

this is evidence which could be given in court to disprove the govenment line, in that the plane seen by the witnesses was not the cause of the damage to the Pentagon.

But apparently from these eyewitnesses there was a major airplane or aircraft of some type that took this very particular position. What is described is more consistent with precisional remote control of aircraft, instead "hijackers". But the question is this: Why would the government give a deliberately southern approach view? What purpose or difference would it make to fake a southern approach? Hypothesis: It has been reported that there is anti-aircraft weaponry on the Pentagon to prevent such an attack. However, a Northern approach, CLOSE OVER THE TOP OF THE NAVY ANNEX, might prevent "engagement" by anti-aircraft batteries, because of low radar approach, and "friendly" sites (i.e. Navy Annex) which would shield the aircraft from anti-aircraft engagement. IF this is true, hijackers and "Arab terrorists" would not have such privileged information, or take an account (even if they could fly with this amazing precision), BUT US MILITARY INSIDERS would make use of such an approach of an aircraft or cruise missile to avoid Pentagon counter-actions. Of course this was make "inside job" rather obvious, at least by way of collaboration.

Considering I have already read and seen this material and more (years ago) from sources that worked 'extensively' researching and documenting the 9/11 attacks, I am rather surprised at the earned respect and praise for Ranke and Marquis coming from the people mentioned above. All I can say is... "Loose Change" - HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of downloads. It may just be the most downloaded video on the internet with the most incredible documentations ever. Come on... give it up!

Having worked at the Gone(Pentagon) years ago, one thing I can tell you, anyone heading across Memorial Bridge would have seen this attack, or a plane fly-over, the same with 14th Street Bridge, just a different angle, so I can't agree with a fly-over! Saying all this I do believe the 9-11 attacks were government sponsored at the minimum, more than likely carried out by the government. Why do I say this, well any crime expert who has dealt with crimes involving the exchange of massive amounts of money, will tell you to follow the money trail. That tells all!

Ever seen the movie Arlington Road ?

What would these folks tell the families of the passengers who were on Flight 77?

very well done article.. thanks to all those involved. my web site is now linking to it. whenever we follow the evidence.. the official "cover-up" story is exposed. i will please feel welcome to visit www.FlybyNews.com for our resources on 9/11 and other key issues for survival in the 21st century.. we are strong supporters of nycCAN.org a referendum for a real investigation.

It's now official - there's been no actual shortage of Holocaust survivors: 'The Israeli Prime Minister's office recently put the number of "living Holocaust survivors" at nearly a million' (extract from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York, published by Verso, London and New York, 2000, p.83). Statement by Richard Lynn, Professor Emeritus University of Ulster, December 5, 2005: "I've checked out Churchill's Second World War and the statement is quite correct - not a single mention of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war. Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill's Second World War total 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war."

12 men sit in the basement of the Whitehouse and decide world events, the chariman of the board is the Devil, himself, the war is for your soul. Rockefeller and Rothchilds sold out for the money and power and are loyal to the protocols of the elders of zion, they will get what they deserve on judgment day. Remote Viewer Dr. Hal Puthoff brifed the Senate Select Intelligence Commitee on the specfic details of 9/11 back in 1977 as he can see future disaters. Col John Alexander (the Pentagons Penguin) is not the same person but an evil alien posing as human who works for the devil. Zero Point Energy is working, was alien derived and is being surpressed by the Pentagon END THE FED, SCRAP THE IRS

9/11 is a controlled demolition. A Reichstag fire false flag operation inside job to rally nation to war, to start eternal war for peace, to establish security bureaucracies. http://911ControlledDemolition.wordpress.com - http://911UnitedWeInvestigate.blogspot.com http://ae911truth.org - http://911blogger.com - http://world911truth.org - http://journalof911studies.com

Criminal elements in the government? Let's see, all of the house, all of the senate, all of the executive, and now a new regime in the executive, with no hint of an investigation. Has it occurred to anyone that maybe our whole nation is ruled by a cabal of criminals? What is it that our elected "officials" all have in common? The corporate dollar, correct. And what's in the best interests of the corporations? War. War is money, war is profits, war is good for them. With their control over the main stream media, it's not hard to see why things are the way they are in America. 3000 souls were sacrificed that day in 2001 for money. It's that simple. And all the elected "officials" are in bed with this. We're ruled by liars, thieves, and murderers. Welcome to the 21st century.

This renews my hope that 911 truth will someday be released and the people responsible will be prosicuted. I have long felt that it was a staged attack to get us into war. Another Pearl Harbor if you will. Thank God there are folks like these that have the ability to bring the dark workings of the previous administration to light. Thank You. The American people deserve to know.

Could you arrange your text in smaller columns please, so we can see them in 1280 without having to shift the bottom bar with every sentence? Thanks! Great article

shortly after the missile hit the building...cameras were rolling....and another explosion brought down the remaining wall section...the film of that happening should remove all doubts from even the harshest critic...

The Zionists did 911. Just like they engineer all the major crises and then get EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. In the case of 911, they got WARS and OIL, not to mention trash the Constitution, trash liberty, and trillions of $ for the well connected (and diverted attention from the economic mess that was building...) Look at the stock market crash - they stole enough money from the American taxpayer that will take GENERATIONS to pay back. And the people who CAUSED the problem got all the money! And they want to give the private unConstitutional Federal Reserve MORE POWER!!??!?!

Look at bldg.7 proven fact the lobby was blown out that morning /but must have had a miss fire ? And it took till 5.32 I think it was before they could implode it and the BBC showedon TV (or stated the bldg. had fallen ) why,ll in the back ground you could see that the bldg. was still standing ! Bush s Pearl Harbor---we need the full truth now /not 15 years from now ?

We all know 9/11 was perpetrated by the American Govenment, why were all the Military Jets stood down that day, while these planes supposedly hit the Pentagon and Twin towers, this fact alone tell's you everything you need to know. The only question now is, when are these traitors called the American Government going to be hanged for treason and murder.

ALOHA, I AM NOT IN THE UNITED STATES. I TALK WITH MANY EUROPEANS AND ASIANS THAT BELIEVE THE PENTAGON WAS HIT WITH A MISSLE NOT AN AIRPLANE. I HAVE MET NO ONE THAT BELIEVES THE TWIN TOWERS AND BUILDING 7 WERE TAKEN DOWN BY THE AIRPLANES ALL BELIEVE THERE WAS GOVERNMENT COMPLICITY. ITS A SCAB THAT WILL BE PICKED AT UNTIL THE TRUTH IS DISCOVERED AND THE INTERNET WILL EXPOSE THE TRUTH. THE AMERICAN MEDIA IS UNDER THE CONTROL OF ZIONISTS. THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS CONTROLLED BY ZIONISTS AND HAS BROUGHT THE SYSTEM TO ITS FAILURE ALL BY ZIONISTS. WHO CONTROLS THE U.S. FEDERAL RESERVE.? WHO OWNED BUILDING 7 ? WHO BENEFITED FINANCIALLY FROM THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TWIN TOWERS ? SIMPLE QUESTIONS BUT THE ANSWERS PROVIDE THE TRUTH. EDWIN DOHERTY

How necessary is it that the people involved in causing the atrocities on september 11 are finally made to pay for these outrageous deeds. 3000 people were murdered in those crumbling and exploding buildings. The government explanation stinks to high heaven. Justice must be served and those involved put on public trial for the whole world to see. Then jailed for life. Help make this happen before those involved make other "terrorist strikes" happen.

Ken White: Could an A-3 Sky Warrior also be on the suspect list for hitting the Pentagon?

Aso please look at dr judy wood's evidence regards the dustification of the twin towers ...see her website www.drjudywood.com

To Daneen Peterson From the NYTourist.com re, WTC Groundbreaking: Ground Breaking: August 5, 1966 Opened: 1970-73; April 4, 1973 ribbon cutting. It also has somehistorical facts in relation to the WTC. From Wikipedia: On September 20, 1962, the Port Authority announced the selection of Minoru Yamasaki as lead architect and Emery Roth & Sons as associate architects. In March 1965, the Port Authority began acquiring property at the World Trade Center site.[37] Demolition work began on March 21, 1966 to clear thirteen square blocks of low rise buildings in Radio Row for construction of the World Trade Center.[38] Groundbreaking for the construction of the World Trade Center took place on August 5, 1966.[39] The topping out ceremony of 1 WTC (North Tower) took place on December 23, 1970, while 2 WTC's ceremony (South Tower) occurred later on July 19, 1971.[47] The first tenants moved into the North Tower in December 1970; the South Tower accepted tenants in January 1972.[49] When the World Trade Center twin towers were completed, the total costs to the Port Authority had reached $900 million.[50] The ribbon cutting ceremony was on April 4, 1973 In January 1967, the Port Authority awarded $74 million in contracts to various steel suppliers, and Karl Koch was hired to erect the steel.[45] Tishman Realty & Construction was hired in February 1967 to oversee construction of the project.[46] Construction work began on the North Tower in August 1968; construction on the South Tower was underway by January 1969.[47] The original Hudson Tubes, carrying PATH trains into Hudson Terminal, remained in service as elevated tunnels during the construction process until 1971 when a new PATH station opened. I have done some internet Google search andcannot find anything that has another 9/11 connection tothe WTC. There is quite a bit of info out there on construction, history, the 1993 bombing, the 1975 fire, contracts, leasing, etc. Takes awhile to go through it all, but it's there.

To Daneen Peterson From the NYTourist.com re, WTC Groundbreaking: Ground Breaking: August 5, 1966 Opened: 1970-73; April 4, 1973 ribbon cutting. It also has somehistorical facts in relation to the WTC. From Wikipedia: On September 20, 1962, the Port Authority announced the selection of Minoru Yamasaki as lead architect and Emery Roth & Sons as associate architects. In March 1965, the Port Authority began acquiring property at the World Trade Center site.[37] Demolition work began on March 21, 1966 to clear thirteen square blocks of low rise buildings in Radio Row for construction of the World Trade Center.[38] Groundbreaking for the construction of the World Trade Center took place on August 5, 1966.[39] The topping out ceremony of 1 WTC (North Tower) took place on December 23, 1970, while 2 WTC's ceremony (South Tower) occurred later on July 19, 1971.[47] The first tenants moved into the North Tower in December 1970; the South Tower accepted tenants in January 1972.[49] When the World Trade Center twin towers were completed, the total costs to the Port Authority had reached $900 million.[50] The ribbon cutting ceremony was on April 4, 1973 In January 1967, the Port Authority awarded $74 million in contracts to various steel suppliers, and Karl Koch was hired to erect the steel.[45] Tishman Realty & Construction was hired in February 1967 to oversee construction of the project.[46] Construction work began on the North Tower in August 1968; construction on the South Tower was underway by January 1969.[47] The original Hudson Tubes, carrying PATH trains into Hudson Terminal, remained in service as elevated tunnels during the construction process until 1971 when a new PATH station opened. I have done some internet Google search andcannot find anything that has another 9/11 connection tothe WTC. There is quite a bit of info out there on construction, history, the 1993 bombing, the 1975 fire, contracts, leasing, etc. Takes awhile to go through it all, but it's there.

The damage to the building or should I say the lack of damage is compelling evidence of a cover up in itself. I do not believe the official story at all. However, I would like to see more evidence of a flyover. This is the missing piece of the puzzle. Surly, there must be people out there who saw the plane exit the scene.

THE GOVERMENT IS LIKE A BIG LONG NASTY EGG FART

If we can believe the reports out of Sweden and the reports out of New Jersey recently... then we must consider the possibility that the planes were flown to Israel, the passengers were gassed on the way (oh the irony) and upon landing their organs and body parts were likely harvested.

of course. any official 9/11 explanations are BS. this is old. want something new? google SiNDADDY. ;] some good anti-NWO stuff for you.

Dana Falkenberg has it right, there were NO commercial aircraft used on 911. There were NO hijackers, no CCTV film of them anywhere and no mention of any of them on the Airline passenger lists. The was an image of a small jet engine lying in the street in New York which was that of a B737. Airport security on ALL the Airports was controlled by an ISRAELI security company, as was security of the WTC Complex. I suggest a new investigation start by slowly removing Larry Silverstein's fingernails, because he knows exactly what really happened that terrible day.

I see a smattering of empty, inane and useless comments by a few clowns trying desperately to fight a rear guard action against truth so big it dwarfs anything the official slanderers ever put up on behalf of their own long since debunked fairy tale. The faith brigade have devolved over time, as each layer of hanger on has been stripped away by truth over time. Beggining with the smartest and gradually moving down the line in intelligence and education levels, we are evidently left with those who can barely tap out a full sentence and who have nothing left but illiterate spluttering. After 8 years we have thousands of independent experts in every imaginable relevent field, whilst the official story can hardly find anybody except these few illiterate die hard morons on internet forums. The situation if the MSM was reporting it, would be utterly ludicrous about now, if the public could see what is left of the official supporters compared with the overwhelming qualifications of those ho roundly and simply refute the entire official fairy tale.

"What happened to the passengers on the plane?" Who said there were passengers on the plane? Obviously there were none aboard, brainstorm.

Categorically a Boeing 757 never impacted outer ring of Pentagon. Low trajectory of strike impossibe without ground skid marks in evidence,aerodynamic effects due to a flying body's proximity to the ground etc. Lack of discernible Boeing 757 aircraft wreckage. Also an aircraft of this type could not traverse 3 rings in arrow like trajectory. Inside job emphatically. They who lead us lead us astray.

I had to give up my golf game to comment on this. You are so lucky to have the internet. Pretty soon it will be taken away from you & humanity will be back in the dark again, at the mercy of the ruling elite.

The most "Shocking" part of all this is that the American public still steadfastly refuses to acknowledge let alone do anything about the 911 "Coup d'Etat" that was engineered by Israel with the complete backing of the US Govt!!! Also why would the the "criminals" who run the US Govt put any effort into investitgating 911,when it would themselves who they'd be indicting! If the American public doesn't do anything to bring the 911-US Govt-Criminals to justice then it surely couldn't be left to any corrupt US Govt investigation or prosecution!

Arthur Cormier is a shill,this isn't about the passengers so stop trying to divert the discussion you scumbag. It had to be a missile that struck the building while a plane overflew to give the witnesses something to look at,it was so fast that the explosion covered the plane flying on and landing at Andrews and due to the overall confusion it wasn't especially noticed,the missile that penetrated the building killed the auditors who were looking for the $2.3T that Rabbi Zakheim had stolen which destroyed all the records as well,it was the jews that did 911,no question.

there is no way that a plane can hit a building and not find a wing or tailsection on the perimeter of that building that is obsurd

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PASENGERS ON THE PLANE THEN? WIFE OF OLSEN ATTORNEY.

A good step into correlating this treasonous action into the WTC - 9/11 action. CIT please carry on.

Pinch, You ask, "How come nobody, not one witness, reported seeing a 'flyover'". It's a great question, and leads to an interesting examination of basic military strategy and more specifically the strategic advantages of "flying low". By adopting such a strategy, no single witness (or very few people) has a vantage point that allows them to see or understand the whole event. In this case a flyover. Each witness sees only a small part of the entire operation. One small piece of a large puzzle. From the point of view of the commander of such an operation, this gives you and your team mates playing a dis-information role a massive tactical advantage. You can assert an overall story that supports your innocence and implicates your enemy without seeming to contradict a large group of witnesses. Individuals are impaired by the fact that only by assembling all the stories is it possible to piece together the whole actual event. The true significance of the details of each individual puzzle piece are only revealed when placed in context with the rest of the pieces. That's what this excellent video does. Here's an analogy that illustrates the logic: I could take a 1000 piece puzzle of the Eiffel Tower and mail individual pieces to 1000 people and tell them each that it is a piece from an Easter bunny puzzle and none would have enough information to understand my deception. Even if a few people got together to connect a few pieces that begin to look more like steel than fur, they have no reason suspect that the remaining pieces won't add up to an Easter bunny. At some point, perhaps many people and enough pieces come together where someone recognizes a part of the Eiffel Tower, but even then there is still the possibility that the bunny is a part of the puzzle. Only by assembling all the recipients and their pieces will the truth be revealed.

Complete repeat of November 22, 1963. Crime scene tampering (destruction of Kennedy's limo/ scoop and dump of WTC identical size steel beams), stock market put options, eyewitness intimidation, evidence planting (passport at WTC and engine at Pentagon) and forgery of JFK's autopsy photos and confiscation of Zapruder and other films like the Citgo security films of 2001. Also both events preceded HUGE unnecessary and illegal war crimes in Vietnam and in our case Afghanistan and Iraq for perceived oil routes and encircling China/Russia. Remember Kennedy was going to pull out of Vietnam and start printing money through the US Treasury and ban the Fed. Take a second and ponder a US that never went into Vietnam or Iraq and began printing our own money as opposed to the far right proto-Fascist turn we took at the end of 63 to today. One world socialism has arrived in the guise of international monopoly corporatism with the complete support of our defense and intelligence communities. BTW Obama is from that Bush (Prescott/George W.) club and will continue the trend; he unfortunately is not the reformer we hoped he would be.

Whether you believe 911 was an inside job or not it will serve you to support a NEW investigation. A REAL investigation.

CIT are the looniest of the loons! Not a bit of this makes any sense, AT ALL! Have fun at the Fema Death Camps, I'll be your guard!

(j)ews did 9/11. Everyone knows it. 'Twas a mossad false flag op. for zionism. Just look at who gained.

"I've never seen a President — I don't care who he is — stand up to them. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would RISE UP IN ARMS. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on." Thomas H. Moorer (1912 - 2004) Admiral, US Navy & Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff during interview on 24 August 1983.

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat without, but because of the insidious forces working from within"--General Douglas MacArthur. Sic Semper Tyrannis - Deo Vindice

"Pinch" knows a little too much to know so little, if you get my drift. Israeli, perhaps?The POINT is, anything he/she/it has to say is picking fly s*&t out of the pepper. One-third of the American people are on to you, you scum bag pieces of s^&*. The informed, pissed-off and ARMED and DANGEROUS "third" (all 100 MILLION of us), I might add. BIG picture, folks. More to this than the Pentagon and 911. If the so-called "debunkers," having access to the same information as everyone else, can't see that the "Red Coats" are coming, they're either working for the "Red Coats," or willfully blind. The "Pinches" of the world are irrelevant. We know what we know. Prepare. Plant seed. Keep your powder dry.And don't let them stick you or anyone you love with that "H1N1" pig flu my a$$ poison.

All these paid naysayers can kiss my a$$. To actually insist this evidence is trumped up is beyond ridiculous. Who's flag do you b@#$%^&* salute anyway? I suspect it's Israel's.

This has been the most corrupt administration in the history of the country. It did not happen over night though. The American public has been brainwashed and duped for a very long time. We have a very myopic perspective of the world from a very narrow lense. We're spoon fed propaganda via the media [newspapers, television, radio etc]. We're so consumed with ourselves almost like a type of narcissism. We're blinded by events around us that have been happening all over the world perpetrated by a handful of the pernicious people on the planet. Read John Perkins book "Confession Of an Economic Hitman", we've overthrown countries, assinated leaders of countries and privatized their resources in one fell swoop. We've inflicted mayhem on our black community with the 'Tuskegee Experiment', we've hired some of the most diabolical scientist from Germany after WWII and ergo we have man-made diseases that will eventually wipe-out entire continents - look at the AIDS virus in Africa and the theory of a 'Green Monkey' causing the outbreak has been debunked unless the Monkey was a Jet Pilot. Check out Dr. Strecker and the 'Strecker Memorandum". There is a lot of propaganda out there and typically the proganda that sticks is being promoted by the people who have the power, the people who own the Money, Military and Media - that is unadulterated power. The only reason why Barrack Obama was elected president had more to do with the majority waking the hell up and saying to themselves i.e. Rebublican and Democrats "These people are damn nuts and they certainly don't have our best interest at hand!" Why do you think that pay Rusch Limbaugh and Sean Hannity the big bucks? So they can continue to divide the country and create an illusion so that they can continue to destroy the world with impunity.

This has been the most corrupt administration in the history of the country. It did not happen over night though. The American public has been brainwashed and duped for a very long time. We have a very myopic perspective of the world from a very narrow lense. We're spoon fed propaganda via the media [newspapers, television, radio etc]. We're so consumed with ourselves almost like a type of narcissism. We're blinded by events around us that have been happening all over the world perpetrated by a handful of the pernicious people on the planet. Read John Perkins book "Confession Of an Economic Hitman", we've overthrown countries, assinated leaders of countries and privatized their resources in one fell swoop. We've inflicted mayhem on our black community with the 'Tuskegee Experiment', we've hired some of the most diabolical scientist from Germany after WWII and ergo we have man-made diseases that will eventually wipe-out entire continents - look at the AIDS virus in Africa and the theory of a 'Green Monkey' causing the outbreak has been debunked unless the Monkey was a Jet Pilot. Check out Dr. Strecker and the 'Strecker Memorandum". There is a lot of propaganda out there and typically the proganda that sticks is being promoted by the people who have the power, the people who own the Money, Military and Media - that is unadulterated power. The only reason why Barrack Obama was elected president had more to do with the majority waking the hell up and saying to themselves i.e. Rebublican and Democrats "These people are damn nuts and they certainly don't have our best interest at hand!" Why do you think that pay Rusch Limbaugh and Sean Hannity the big bucks? So they can continue to divide the country and create an illusion so that they can continue to destroy the world with impunity.

We have known for a long time that the "official story" about what "hit" the Pentagon was a very big lie. Will anything change with the release of the video? Of course not. All the "respected people" you quote in this article are okay except.... "Architect Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911Truth.org), a coalition of over 700 professional architects and engineers calling for a new independent investigation of the destruction of the three skyscrapers in New York on 9/11 (the third was World Trade Center 7), calls the film “long overdue, but worth waiting for” and says that it “deserves serious attention”. " Gage is some kind of mystery may from out of nowhere who has taken leadership and of a group he created and who has controlled, or attempted to totally control, the input from architects and engineers. Independent artchitects and engineers with their own investigations and insights is almost totally absent from the 9-11 truth "movement." I would also mention that Dr. Griffin and Dr. Barrett are people who are fine with the loss of USA sovereignty to a world government entity. In other words, neither care a wit about the USA as a sovereign Constitutional republic and they would probably both be amenable to a new "international" investigation of 9-11, sort of like the International Criminal Court. 99 percent of the official information we have been given about "planes" are total lies, and of course that obliterates the whole "hijackers" story and the "war on terrorism" meme.

Certainly at the local levels: state, county and city there are those who will ask for justice. The outrage is that there is no outrage. Time to stand up and demand action by your local governments.

White people did it - not the Saints (Muslims)!!!

Ineed to be able to email this to friends. Why is this not possible from this site?

Never once has anyone refuted my witness testimony about the original take-over at the WTC engineering offices which occured just at the steel framing was completed on Building #7. Time and again, I've said where to look in the records of the adjacent buildings, each of which took part in the Bridgeways Project, back when the plan was to tear the buildings down piece-by-piece. As the public gets wiser and wiser to the 9/11 coup, and to the eugentic campaign, maybe this time they will know to go after the filthy rich as opposed to merely burning and looting among themselves on the poor side of town. One thing is for sure, 'Justice' will never be seen with the treasonous so-called 'leadership' in place.

Why is it that the only video footage was from the gas station camera? Do you mean to tell me that the Pentagon doesn't have surveillance cameras on the premises? Anywhere? What happened to that plane and the people? If a missile hit the Pentagon, and I believe it did, where did that jet and passengers go? I also don't buy that the jet disintegrated into nothing. That little hole in the inner ring was not made by the nose of the plane. The nose of the plane is very soft. There's no way that it would have pierced through that concrete. Remember awhile back a jet had to make a landing because the nose of the jet crumpled in during flight?

CLG 9/11 Exposition Zone http://www.legitgov.org/9_1_1_oddities.html Lori R. Price Managing Editor Citizens For Legitimate Government http://www.legitgov.org/

Power concedes nothing unless forced to do so. This is why governments strive for a monopoly on violence and why our founders drafted the 2nd amendment. You can have as many smoking guns as you like but it will do not good unless the American people are willing to put lives and fortunes on the line to bring those responsible to account. This is why the Patriot Act and the Office of Homeland Security were formed, this is why they engage in torture and make their deeds public, and this is why your prison cell in a remote military base is waiting for you.

Having long suspected 9/11 was an inside job, my lingering questions involve the 'fate' of the passengers on the plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon. Since no 'passengers' of that plane ever came forward and exclaimed, "Hey, here I am," could it be that the original list of passengers were in fact 'plants' and were merely part of the plot?

People,folks,why can't we just,well,erm,get along? The time for bombarding our fellow humans in this plane with thousands of half baked speculations and outright idiocy has passed.Our next hurdle is the area of transcendental time maximization.Through a process that involves thirty day fasts and a thorough detoxification process )involving body mind and,most importantly,soul) along with the relevant passages in the Urantia Book we can be a more determinative factor in this Herculean task we face before we shuffle off this mortal coil.Please consider this as a token of my extreme.Onward!!

Since the modus operandi of the Illuminati often includes numerological mysticism, . . . all you need to know about the Pentagon is that the Pentagon's ground breaking ceremony, was 9/11/1941. I have also been told that the dedication, ground breaking, or cornerstone laying of the World Trade Center (WTC), was also on 9/11/??. However, I could not verify that information because the 'Freedom Tower' has conveniently usurped and 'papered over' the history of the World Trade Center's (WTC) origins. If anyone out there has proof of the 9/11/(perhaps 1966) date of ground breaking, 1st of its kind 'slurry wall' pouring, cornerstone laying or other ceremonial event for the WTC (aka Twin Towers) I would like to hear from you through my website http://www.StopTheNorthAmericanUnion.com

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I am a retired Air Force officer with flight experience. It was a cruise missile that hit the Pentagon. Period. The C-130 that launched it flew at tree top level over my home in eastern West Virginia...on a DC heading....at precisely the right time for the attack. The 757 met up with the cruise missile somewhere outside of DC and followed it in to create the illusion. The 757 overflew the Pentagon, as verified by at least one eye witness, and either landed at National or left the area at low level. Since it is impossible to fly an aircraft with a wing span of 124 feet through a 16-foot hole in the side of Pengaton....and leave only one small engine...this is the only possible explanation. And the stench of high treason still hangs in the air like the smell of the deaths No wonder Cheney and Company protesteth so loudly any and all attempts at revealing the awful truth of that awful day. And you paid trolls are equally culpable. Ignorance is one thing; knowingly promoting falsehoods about such a deadly affair is another.

There were no commercial planes on 9-11. Now that you are evolving and realizing that there was no commercial plane at the Pentagon....maybe you can now understand that these same criminals just might be capable of committing the same crime, in the same way, with the same types of witnesses, for the same reason, and the same outcome....just simply at a different location?!! There were no commercial planes at ANY location on 9-11. After 8 years...not one single piece of debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 has EVER been verified by ANYONE. The never ending global US war on terror is a murderous fraud. Ps….the investigators of this study used flight data recorder information from a FDR that had NO SERIAL NUMBERS???!!!! Garbage in…garbage out.

I wonder when (haha) the MSM will pick up this blockbuster breakthrough story? For those of us who have been called fruit cakes (and much worse) and mocked by the MSM and leading political pundits, I say Thank you for the very scientific approach you've taken. Hopefully, this story will lead to the whole truth behind those involved in 911. Dr. Douglas W. Schell Retired Univesrity Professor

Keep waving that flag Pinch. Guys at the top LOVE guys like you who accept everything they are told by the so called "authorities". An apt quote comes to mind. "They nust find it difficult, those who accept authority as truth instead of truth being the authority". With all the scams that Washington has been involved in (the bail-out of the banks, the unaccountable spending, the lies about weapons of mass destruction, the ever weakening dollar, a new president who not only reneges on all his campaign promises but who instead expands the failed policies of the previous administration, etc., etc.) I'm sure the track record holds up well enough for people like you who question nothing. Quit being a !&%*ing lemming and think...........

So "Pinch" you saying that the "Pentagon Police" are either lying or are delusional? LOL. Actually it is quite hard to get such corroborating evidence from something that happened all in about 5 seconds or less. To have this many totally unrelated eye witnesses that all corroborate each other almost exactly and independently is very strong evidence.

I didn't know people sat in the parking lot in their vehicles at 9:30 on a work day Pinch. Your ad hominem attacks on the distinguished individuals who endorsed this film similarly fall flat. They do not refute anything. The runway to Reagan National Airport is a mile from the Pentagon, Pinch, and planes fly over that part of the highway every few minutes all day every day. I've been there and seen it. The plane was seen flying away immediately AFTER the explosion by Pentagon Police Officer Roosevelt Roberts Jr, Pinch. If you go to their website CitizenInvestigationTeam.com they document how fraudulent media reports of a "second plane" or "jet" that allegedly "shadowed" the attack jet and "veered" away seconds before or after the attack. See "The Pentagon Flyover: How They Pulled it Off" under Evidence >> Supplemental Presentations. There was no such second plane, Pinch. There was only one plane that Roosevelt Roberts Jr. could have seen, and that's the plane that all of the witnesses shown in National Security Alert insist flew on the north side, proving that it did not hit the builidng. The next plane to arrive was a C-130 piloted by Lt. Col Steve O'Brien, which did not arrive for approximately THREE MINUTES later, yet these fraudulent reports provided a further explanation for people who saw the plane flying away after the explosion. It was caught on video showing up three minutes later, Pinch, so don't try to lie and say it was there at the same time as the attack or immediately after. It also approached from a direction which contradicts the phony 84 RADES data, as repeatedly confirmed by the witnesses. Since you are accusing them of not accepting witnesses, please post video or audio recorded interviews with 13 or more witnesses WHO COULD SEE THE CITGO and specifically say that the plane on the south side of the station.

Hilarious. That's all I have to say about this entire concoction. Its easy to get "corroborated eyewitness evidence" when the only "eyewitness evidence" you accept is that which backs up your thesis. Endorsements? Only from the most hyper-conspiracy-laden nutjobs who have already been proven fools in the arena of public opinion and in the fields of their supposed areas of expertise. "303 combat missions"? Is that suppose to lend credence to this whole charade? I learned a long time ago that fools appear in all sorts of guises, even that of a veteran. Make sure you ask about the "fly-over" and why, at 9:37 am, in a building with 25,000 people next to a parking lot that holds over 3000 vehicles and next to an interstate that has a quarter of a million people drive on it each day NOBODY saw a "fly-over" - nobody but one person who said they saw an aircraft flying the opposite direction. Hilarious.

This video is incredible. Watch it. It will blow your mind. Wow.